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“The podcast where better is definitely better than bigger. Do you think growing infinitely on a finite planet is an oxymoron? If the answer is yes, then this podcast is for you. ”
Post-Growth Australia Podcast (or PGAP) has been one of my proudest achievements. I began hosting this podcast back in July 2020, as an experiment, during the height of the Melbourne COVID lockdowns, partly as a distraction.
FOUR years later, PGAP has since enjoyed five seasons, five star reviews and has consistency performed in the top 10% of global podcasts. I am pleased that PGAP has been steadily building an enthusiastic audience over time.
In season 4 of PGAP, I was delighted to be joined by Mark Allen, founder of Town Planning Rebellion and Holistic Activism, as co-host. His contribution has ensured that PGAP has gone from strength to strength.
PGAP co-hosts Mark Allen (left) and Michael Bayliss (right).
PGAP is made possible from the support of Sustainable Population Australia (SPA). I would like to thank SPA for allowing PGAP a degree of autonomy as we explore all aspects of alternatives to economic growth. PGAP has a fine legacy of guests including well-known names such as Charles Massy, David Holmgren, Ted Trainer and Derrick Jensen. However this is just scratching the surface. We have interviewed everyone from permaculturists in Ghana, grassroots women empowerment advocates in Colombia and resident action groups in Western Australia. The sky is the limit!
Below are my favourite episodes from each of the past five seasons of PGAP. It has been very hard to choose, as all guests have been exceptional, but the below examples are, I believe, representative of the range and quality of PGAP conversations.
SEASON FIVE: Conversation with Noongar Menang Educator and Storyteller Larry Blight
(We interview Menang Noongar educator Larry Blight on site at the Yakamia forest, one of the few remnant pieces of bushland in Albany, which is currently under threat from overdevelopment (of course!) Larry discusses the environmental and cultural significance of the Yakamia forest. We then delve into a broader conversation across many issues such as overdevelopment, colonisation, the perils of neoliberalism and population policy. Larry incorporates his local knowledge and his connection to Boodja (Land) in what is a very deep and insightful conversation.)
SEASON FOUR: Women for Conservation with Isabella Cortes Lara
(An incredible artist and storyteller, Isabella shares with PGAP how W4C started, the decision to focus on family planning and reproductive healthcare as a solution to the environmental and reproductive issues affecting rural Colombia, and how her artistic and spiritual approach to life intersect and inform her activism.)
SEASON THREE: 3 Women 2 Countries 1 Message
(For this episode, PGAP welcome back Karen Shragg, American and Degrowth activist, along with two new guests, Madeline Weld and Valorie Allen from Canada. In this special four way discussion, we explore the similarities and contrasts of the population movement in across our respective countries and unite to shred the myths and misconceptions around population sustainability).
SEASON TWO: Saving the Martuwarra-Fitzroy river with Professor Anne Poelina
(Anne Poelina, Chair of the Martuwarra Fitzroy River Council and a Nyikina Warrwa Traditional Owner, is a custodian of her family’s connection to Mardoowarra, at the lower end of the Fitzroy River. Through observation and practice of Indigenous ‘First Law’ - the first Australian law embodied the rules for living in coexistence with nature – Anne believes it is possible to transition from a culture of invasive development and exploitation to an entrepreneurial culture of care and custodianship).
SEASON 1: Retrosuburbia with David Holmgren
(In addition to exploring Retrosuburbia, David discusses the current predicaments and shortcomings that are inherent in the current system, such as inefficiency, waste, and erosion of community, the pressure and displacement of renters – not to mention the environmental toll. David explores his vision of a post-growth world in which the Retrosuburbia and Permaculture movements play a fundamental role.)